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		By: Ryan Kulp		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the most surprising part of the election cycle was how surprised &quot;everyone&quot; was of the outcome. It&#039;s actually a nice litmus test on the MSM... if they reported objectively and covered more [of the country&#039;s Common Man&#039;s] opinions, NYT wouldn&#039;t be calling this an &quot;upset.&quot; It would be called &quot;expected.&quot;

Of course, prophets like yourself, Coulter, and even freelance journalists are reminding us about the Rust Belt, Middle America, and generally that group of 300mm folks who don&#039;t live in the Valley or NYC.

The boldest promise (IMO) in his 100 day plan, is the term limits restriction. That likely won&#039;t be popular on either side, and will again shake up politics (forever) by returning us to Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

What is unclear to me, is whether the #NeverTrump haters and liberals will give credit where it&#039;s due, if/when Trump does follow through on his promises, and makes live better for all Americans, vs just the 50%+ who voted for him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the most surprising part of the election cycle was how surprised &#8220;everyone&#8221; was of the outcome. It&#8217;s actually a nice litmus test on the MSM&#8230; if they reported objectively and covered more [of the country&#8217;s Common Man&#8217;s] opinions, NYT wouldn&#8217;t be calling this an &#8220;upset.&#8221; It would be called &#8220;expected.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, prophets like yourself, Coulter, and even freelance journalists are reminding us about the Rust Belt, Middle America, and generally that group of 300mm folks who don&#8217;t live in the Valley or NYC.</p>
<p>The boldest promise (IMO) in his 100 day plan, is the term limits restriction. That likely won&#8217;t be popular on either side, and will again shake up politics (forever) by returning us to Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.</p>
<p>What is unclear to me, is whether the #NeverTrump haters and liberals will give credit where it&#8217;s due, if/when Trump does follow through on his promises, and makes live better for all Americans, vs just the 50%+ who voted for him.</p>
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		By: JLM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/the-election-some-thoughts/#comment-3155&quot;&gt;ZekeV&lt;/a&gt;.

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We have lost the ability to engage in debate. It is, frankly, a slur on our masculinity -- the ability to disagree without being disagreeable on both sides of such a conversation.

In addition, we have lost our ability to lose (win) with grace and equanimity.

There is a tendency to exert whatever power one can to create an outcome which is attained by unfair means rather than hard, fair competition.

Nobody owns all the good ideas. When ideas wrestle, better ideas are created.

Politics should not be a struggle for power; it should be a quest for service to our citizens.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/the-election-some-thoughts/#comment-3155">ZekeV</a>.</p>
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We have lost the ability to engage in debate. It is, frankly, a slur on our masculinity &#8212; the ability to disagree without being disagreeable on both sides of such a conversation.</p>
<p>In addition, we have lost our ability to lose (win) with grace and equanimity.</p>
<p>There is a tendency to exert whatever power one can to create an outcome which is attained by unfair means rather than hard, fair competition.</p>
<p>Nobody owns all the good ideas. When ideas wrestle, better ideas are created.</p>
<p>Politics should not be a struggle for power; it should be a quest for service to our citizens.</p>
<p>JLM<br />
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		By: ZekeV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/the-election-some-thoughts/#comment-3152&quot;&gt;JLM&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, that is funny! The lefty tears are delicious. But! I hope that you are a good sport in 4 years. It is going to get ugly.

There&#039;s a strange phenomenon, an asymmetry in this which is hard to explain. I&#039;ll tip my hand a bit and say I am a Democrat. I worked for Michael Madigan in Illinois (first job out of college in 2002) and have never voted for a Republican for any position higher than local dog catcher. According to gimmicky internet quiz sites, I am slightly left of center. Yet you would think I were Atilla the Hun by the reaction of my peers when I voice opinions that are not part of the Correct Views. 

For example, I grew up in Flyover Country as they call it (except I don&#039;t fly over it, I actually land there regularly). Thus I have some experience with guns, and I don&#039;t find it scary to think about my neighbors being armed. I also think taxes are a necessary evil and should not be higher than they have to be to fulfill the basic government responsibilities (public safety, education, caring for those who cannot care for themselves). That parenthetical, by the way, is from my old boss on Madigan&#039;s staff, and we analyzed any controversial new initiative in that light.

When I lived in Springfield, IL, we liked to visit the local watering holes. And I found that the best places were often the Republican hangouts. I never felt unwelcome there, although I was not on their team. There was a lot of good-spirited ribbing, but no hurt feelings. But there are some fragile people on my side of the aisle. Try talking up Trump in a group of college students -- you will not get invited back. Do this publicly on Twitter and they will block you. What is this fragile attitude about? I have not yet figured that out.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, that is funny! The lefty tears are delicious. But! I hope that you are a good sport in 4 years. It is going to get ugly.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a strange phenomenon, an asymmetry in this which is hard to explain. I&#8217;ll tip my hand a bit and say I am a Democrat. I worked for Michael Madigan in Illinois (first job out of college in 2002) and have never voted for a Republican for any position higher than local dog catcher. According to gimmicky internet quiz sites, I am slightly left of center. Yet you would think I were Atilla the Hun by the reaction of my peers when I voice opinions that are not part of the Correct Views. </p>
<p>For example, I grew up in Flyover Country as they call it (except I don&#8217;t fly over it, I actually land there regularly). Thus I have some experience with guns, and I don&#8217;t find it scary to think about my neighbors being armed. I also think taxes are a necessary evil and should not be higher than they have to be to fulfill the basic government responsibilities (public safety, education, caring for those who cannot care for themselves). That parenthetical, by the way, is from my old boss on Madigan&#8217;s staff, and we analyzed any controversial new initiative in that light.</p>
<p>When I lived in Springfield, IL, we liked to visit the local watering holes. And I found that the best places were often the Republican hangouts. I never felt unwelcome there, although I was not on their team. There was a lot of good-spirited ribbing, but no hurt feelings. But there are some fragile people on my side of the aisle. Try talking up Trump in a group of college students &#8212; you will not get invited back. Do this publicly on Twitter and they will block you. What is this fragile attitude about? I have not yet figured that out.</p>
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		By: JLM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Thx

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<p>.<br />
Thx</p>
<p>BRC<br />
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		By: Scott Garl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/the-election-some-thoughts/#comment-3150&quot;&gt;JLM&lt;/a&gt;.

Seriously, the man has been the president elect for a few days and the jackasses are coming out to bash him for not competing his promised wall?  3 days?  I really must be living in a simulation because for anyone to proclaim something as stupid as this seems utterly impossible.  Can&#039;t the guy at least become president 1st?  

Doing my duty to thank a veteran today JLM.  Thank you for your service to our country.  I respect and honor you greatly!]]></description>
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<p>Seriously, the man has been the president elect for a few days and the jackasses are coming out to bash him for not competing his promised wall?  3 days?  I really must be living in a simulation because for anyone to proclaim something as stupid as this seems utterly impossible.  Can&#8217;t the guy at least become president 1st?  </p>
<p>Doing my duty to thank a veteran today JLM.  Thank you for your service to our country.  I respect and honor you greatly!</p>
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		By: JLM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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President Trump won the Rust Belt, something that nobody even considered possible. Think about that for a second. He knew he had a shot there and his travel schedule at the end of the campaign reflected this confidence.

The next election will be determined not by demographics but by President Trump&#039;s performance in the Oval Office. You are overlooking that reality.

Trump tapped into the anger from 2014 which powered the Republican sweep. Giving them the Senate and a larger majority in the House together with Governor&#039;s mansions and legislatures.

In 2016, Trump added the White House. It&#039;s been a pretty good couple of elections for the Republicans and I don&#039;t think they have much to worry about in the short term other than governing.

There is no Obama legacy. None. Worst. President. Ever.

There is nothing to build on in the HRC candicacy. Worst. Candidate. Ever.

Here is what all the experts had to say:

https://www.facebook.com/DailyCaller/videos/10153943492616770/

Is that funny or what? Those pompous, arrogant asses knew squat.

Be well. Trump&#039;s got this one under control. Stay tuned.

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President Trump won the Rust Belt, something that nobody even considered possible. Think about that for a second. He knew he had a shot there and his travel schedule at the end of the campaign reflected this confidence.</p>
<p>The next election will be determined not by demographics but by President Trump&#8217;s performance in the Oval Office. You are overlooking that reality.</p>
<p>Trump tapped into the anger from 2014 which powered the Republican sweep. Giving them the Senate and a larger majority in the House together with Governor&#8217;s mansions and legislatures.</p>
<p>In 2016, Trump added the White House. It&#8217;s been a pretty good couple of elections for the Republicans and I don&#8217;t think they have much to worry about in the short term other than governing.</p>
<p>There is no Obama legacy. None. Worst. President. Ever.</p>
<p>There is nothing to build on in the HRC candicacy. Worst. Candidate. Ever.</p>
<p>Here is what all the experts had to say:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/DailyCaller/videos/10153943492616770/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/DailyCaller/videos/10153943492616770/</a></p>
<p>Is that funny or what? Those pompous, arrogant asses knew squat.</p>
<p>Be well. Trump&#8217;s got this one under control. Stay tuned.</p>
<p>BRC<br />
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump ran a good race and deserved to win, but I&#039;m afraid this victory for his supporters will eventually turn to dust in their (your) mouths. We know thanks to wikileaks that Team Clinton liked the idea of Trump winning the Republican nomination as a &quot;Pied Piper Candidate&quot;. Many D&#039;s will feel that this was a mistake, in retrospect. Certainly it was a tactical mistake for HRC. In the long run, though, I think Trump will prove to have been a tremendous Pied Piper for conservatives.

Trump won because he excited a marginally better turnout than Romney amongst the conservative base, and won a sliver of independents and independently-minded partisans. For example, DT&#039;s margin over HRC in Michigan, the poster Rust Belt state, was 11,837 votes (according to Google). Gary Johnson won 173,021 in that state, and Jill Stein won 50,686. HRC won the popular vote nationwide with a margin just shy of 400,000 (again according to Google). What this looks like to me is DT having played a very good game, winning fair and square by the rules, but also benefiting from a massive drop in participation by principled lefties who, even holding their noses, could not stand to vote for HRC; and also benefiting from defections -- surprising defections of Dems who voted for not just Jill Stein but also Gary Johnson. This was a unique election that could not have happened but for the uniquely flawed candidacy of HRC, coming off 8 years of a polarizing Democratic president.

In the longer run (and not even that long) demographics do not favor the Republicans. Trump has absolutely ruined the Republican party, and conservative principles, for the majority of college-educated people, brown people, and to a lesser degree women. Trump hit a vein with conservative whites, apolitical blacks and Latinos, and evangelical Christians. But this may be the last election in which that coalition can win, even with a very sophisticated strategy building Electoral College majority.

I am genuinely afraid that this could get very nasty next time around. 2016 was civil. But you know that there are some sore losers out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump ran a good race and deserved to win, but I&#8217;m afraid this victory for his supporters will eventually turn to dust in their (your) mouths. We know thanks to wikileaks that Team Clinton liked the idea of Trump winning the Republican nomination as a &#8220;Pied Piper Candidate&#8221;. Many D&#8217;s will feel that this was a mistake, in retrospect. Certainly it was a tactical mistake for HRC. In the long run, though, I think Trump will prove to have been a tremendous Pied Piper for conservatives.</p>
<p>Trump won because he excited a marginally better turnout than Romney amongst the conservative base, and won a sliver of independents and independently-minded partisans. For example, DT&#8217;s margin over HRC in Michigan, the poster Rust Belt state, was 11,837 votes (according to Google). Gary Johnson won 173,021 in that state, and Jill Stein won 50,686. HRC won the popular vote nationwide with a margin just shy of 400,000 (again according to Google). What this looks like to me is DT having played a very good game, winning fair and square by the rules, but also benefiting from a massive drop in participation by principled lefties who, even holding their noses, could not stand to vote for HRC; and also benefiting from defections &#8212; surprising defections of Dems who voted for not just Jill Stein but also Gary Johnson. This was a unique election that could not have happened but for the uniquely flawed candidacy of HRC, coming off 8 years of a polarizing Democratic president.</p>
<p>In the longer run (and not even that long) demographics do not favor the Republicans. Trump has absolutely ruined the Republican party, and conservative principles, for the majority of college-educated people, brown people, and to a lesser degree women. Trump hit a vein with conservative whites, apolitical blacks and Latinos, and evangelical Christians. But this may be the last election in which that coalition can win, even with a very sophisticated strategy building Electoral College majority.</p>
<p>I am genuinely afraid that this could get very nasty next time around. 2016 was civil. But you know that there are some sore losers out there.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/the-election-some-thoughts/#comment-3149&quot;&gt;Vineeth Kariappa&lt;/a&gt;.

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Small point but let&#039;s let President Trump be inaugurated before we start cataloging his numerous, manifest failings. Seems fair, no?

Also, let&#039;s actually wait until President Trump says something rather than using the bleating of an ass clown to suggest that these are policy insights. You will note that this jackanapes quotes &quot;Congressional&quot; sources rather than President Trump himself. Small point.

I wonder, in the absence of having even picked a Cabinet, with whom they are chatting? Don&#039;t you have to have someone on the other side to have a conversation? Small point, I agree.

Donald Trump, bad. Hillary Clinton, good. Donald Trump, President. There is that, no?

It&#039;s going to be fine.

There may even be a few promises that fail to materialize. Who knew?

Got to run, going to the anti-Trump riot downtown. We had a crowd of 28 last night.

Watch this.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/11/trump-adviser-urges-obama-clinton-to-speak-out-on-protests.html

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<p>.<br />
Small point but let&#8217;s let President Trump be inaugurated before we start cataloging his numerous, manifest failings. Seems fair, no?</p>
<p>Also, let&#8217;s actually wait until President Trump says something rather than using the bleating of an ass clown to suggest that these are policy insights. You will note that this jackanapes quotes &#8220;Congressional&#8221; sources rather than President Trump himself. Small point.</p>
<p>I wonder, in the absence of having even picked a Cabinet, with whom they are chatting? Don&#8217;t you have to have someone on the other side to have a conversation? Small point, I agree.</p>
<p>Donald Trump, bad. Hillary Clinton, good. Donald Trump, President. There is that, no?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be fine.</p>
<p>There may even be a few promises that fail to materialize. Who knew?</p>
<p>Got to run, going to the anti-Trump riot downtown. We had a crowd of 28 last night.</p>
<p>Watch this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/11/trump-adviser-urges-obama-clinton-to-speak-out-on-protests.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/11/trump-adviser-urges-obama-clinton-to-speak-out-on-protests.html</a></p>
<p>BRC<br />
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#039;m missing what is needed here that is &quot;new&quot;.  E.g., borders:  We&#039;re supposed to have secure borders.  We have, IIRC, 16,000 border patrol agents to guard our borders -- they endorsed Trump.  We have the Coast Guard.  Criminals?  We&#039;re supposed to deport any and all illegal immigrants, ones who violated the immigration laws and, of course, any other laws.  We have the INS for that.  Ike deported a lot  

The origin countries are supposed to take them back, and if they don&#039;t we clamp down on visa and other interactions with them.

It&#039;s just that in recent years we have had a POTUS who wanted not to enforce the laws.  In the Constitution, one of the duties of the POTUS is to enforce the laws, and not doing so should be impeachable.

We have policies that are flexible, e.g., import from behind the Iron Curtain but maybe not from countries with a lot of radical Islamic terrorism.  We can accept or refuse people for any reason or no reason.  One policy I would like, all the females look as good as Melania!!!  :-)]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m missing what is needed here that is &#8220;new&#8221;.  E.g., borders:  We&#8217;re supposed to have secure borders.  We have, IIRC, 16,000 border patrol agents to guard our borders &#8212; they endorsed Trump.  We have the Coast Guard.  Criminals?  We&#8217;re supposed to deport any and all illegal immigrants, ones who violated the immigration laws and, of course, any other laws.  We have the INS for that.  Ike deported a lot  </p>
<p>The origin countries are supposed to take them back, and if they don&#8217;t we clamp down on visa and other interactions with them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that in recent years we have had a POTUS who wanted not to enforce the laws.  In the Constitution, one of the duties of the POTUS is to enforce the laws, and not doing so should be impeachable.</p>
<p>We have policies that are flexible, e.g., import from behind the Iron Curtain but maybe not from countries with a lot of radical Islamic terrorism.  We can accept or refuse people for any reason or no reason.  One policy I would like, all the females look as good as Melania!!!  🙂</p>
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