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		By: Vineeth Kariappa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vineeth Kariappa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2016 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/#comment-2802&quot;&gt;JLM&lt;/a&gt;.

If the Republican party picks Donald Trump, he has a 50% chance of winning (He just needs to keep running adverts about paying Hillary to attend his wedding and he gains!)

If not, he goes as an independent (Why aren&#039;t people talking about this?)

About 55 % of the population votes. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections)

According to you, there were almost 100% increase in new voters in these rounds. Registered republicans are approx 12.5% of the US population. So, the new 12.5% love Donald + assume 8 % of &quot;traditional republicans&quot; (which includes you + people like you, going by the current vote split) + maybe ~ 4 % of Democrats out of 25% of the voting population ? Independents may constitute about 15 %, they prefer Bernie, who will try again next time, so most of them may vote for Donald ~ 8 %

This elections maybe voter turnout increases to 65%.

Donald may get ~ 32.5 %
Republic nominee may get ~ 10 %.
Hillary may get ~ 28 %

After all 2016 is the year when Leo won his first oscar and Leicester city won the EPL ! 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/#comment-2802">JLM</a>.</p>
<p>If the Republican party picks Donald Trump, he has a 50% chance of winning (He just needs to keep running adverts about paying Hillary to attend his wedding and he gains!)</p>
<p>If not, he goes as an independent (Why aren&#8217;t people talking about this?)</p>
<p>About 55 % of the population votes. (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections</a>)</p>
<p>According to you, there were almost 100% increase in new voters in these rounds. Registered republicans are approx 12.5% of the US population. So, the new 12.5% love Donald + assume 8 % of &#8220;traditional republicans&#8221; (which includes you + people like you, going by the current vote split) + maybe ~ 4 % of Democrats out of 25% of the voting population ? Independents may constitute about 15 %, they prefer Bernie, who will try again next time, so most of them may vote for Donald ~ 8 %</p>
<p>This elections maybe voter turnout increases to 65%.</p>
<p>Donald may get ~ 32.5 %<br />
Republic nominee may get ~ 10 %.<br />
Hillary may get ~ 28 %</p>
<p>After all 2016 is the year when Leo won his first oscar and Leicester city won the EPL !<br />
Shit happens.</p>
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		By: Tom Sullivan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/#comment-2812&quot;&gt;JLM&lt;/a&gt;.

Definitely ]]></description>
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<p>Definitely </p>
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		By: JLM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/#comment-2811&quot;&gt;Tom Sullivan&lt;/a&gt;.

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I think he is a high pitched fart. No?

BRC
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<p>.<br />
I think he is a high pitched fart. No?</p>
<p>BRC<br />
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		By: Tom Sullivan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That picture of Cruz is the best, Looks like he did a high pitched fart and is saying....what do you think of that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That picture of Cruz is the best, Looks like he did a high pitched fart and is saying&#8230;.what do you think of that?</p>
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		By: JLM		</title>
		<link>https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/#comment-2810</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/#comment-2809&quot;&gt;Really?&lt;/a&gt;.

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Excellent comment. I  do want to quibble about one thing.

The Founding Fathers never confronted the issue of &quot;parties&quot; and were, famously, opposed to them. So, the connection between the &quot;representative republic&quot; governing theme is not really true as it relates to the nominating process.

The nominating process has evolved over the years in an incredible manner with huge differences in the last 100 years. The FFs have no fingerprints on this particular murder weapon.

Nominating and governing are not the same thing. The governing organization meme of &quot;representative republic&quot; is decreed by the founding documents of the Nation, not so the nominating process.

The key to the nominating process is the party and convention rules and only the rules. This is the ultimate insider rigged system writ large.

You and I could go form our own party -- I can&#039;t do it this week cause I&#039;m real busy -- and make up whatever rules we wanted. I suggest we take turns being the nominee.

While the GOPe and DEMe have dictated to the states how one must behave to get on their ballot, we could do that also. Much easier before the first primary because as an example in Texas a valid petition must be signed by folks who have not voted in either the Rep or Dem primary.

Make no mistake, this will be ugly and, yet, educational. We are still a cigar smoke filled backroom, we just have computers now.

BRC
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/#comment-2809">Really?</a>.</p>
<p>.<br />
Excellent comment. I  do want to quibble about one thing.</p>
<p>The Founding Fathers never confronted the issue of &#8220;parties&#8221; and were, famously, opposed to them. So, the connection between the &#8220;representative republic&#8221; governing theme is not really true as it relates to the nominating process.</p>
<p>The nominating process has evolved over the years in an incredible manner with huge differences in the last 100 years. The FFs have no fingerprints on this particular murder weapon.</p>
<p>Nominating and governing are not the same thing. The governing organization meme of &#8220;representative republic&#8221; is decreed by the founding documents of the Nation, not so the nominating process.</p>
<p>The key to the nominating process is the party and convention rules and only the rules. This is the ultimate insider rigged system writ large.</p>
<p>You and I could go form our own party &#8212; I can&#8217;t do it this week cause I&#8217;m real busy &#8212; and make up whatever rules we wanted. I suggest we take turns being the nominee.</p>
<p>While the GOPe and DEMe have dictated to the states how one must behave to get on their ballot, we could do that also. Much easier before the first primary because as an example in Texas a valid petition must be signed by folks who have not voted in either the Rep or Dem primary.</p>
<p>Make no mistake, this will be ugly and, yet, educational. We are still a cigar smoke filled backroom, we just have computers now.</p>
<p>BRC<br />
<a href="http://www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com</a></p>
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		By: Really?		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rule 40, the great unread rule. So I copy it completely for you below, while Part B is talked about directly it is part E that is going to be the battle. Having spent time in the bowels of the party, and DC rules rule daily life. Law degrees are the standard so it is. 

Part B focuses on nominations defined as person A Formally entered into consideration publicly by Clown A supporter. Each nominated gets to speak of 15 min! Ouch, we had 17 to start then there are the secret establishment characters!

Yea Mitt did this to stifle random speechifying but it in no terms defines who a delegate votes for, those are governed by state committee, mostly released from commitment over time!

Lastly this is Representative Democracy in the nominating process not pure democracy as our founders set up the Government so we elect a candidate! 

BTW Part E says if you can&#039;t get a majority you can&#039;t be the Candidate. One of the core skills of leadership is building consensus getting that 1237 is the first trial of leadership. This also gives early state delegates a chance to make a better choice if their designated candidate drops or commits a new felony!

 https://cdn.gop.com/docs/2012_RULES_Adopted.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule 40, the great unread rule. So I copy it completely for you below, while Part B is talked about directly it is part E that is going to be the battle. Having spent time in the bowels of the party, and DC rules rule daily life. Law degrees are the standard so it is. </p>
<p>Part B focuses on nominations defined as person A Formally entered into consideration publicly by Clown A supporter. Each nominated gets to speak of 15 min! Ouch, we had 17 to start then there are the secret establishment characters!</p>
<p>Yea Mitt did this to stifle random speechifying but it in no terms defines who a delegate votes for, those are governed by state committee, mostly released from commitment over time!</p>
<p>Lastly this is Representative Democracy in the nominating process not pure democracy as our founders set up the Government so we elect a candidate! </p>
<p>BTW Part E says if you can&#8217;t get a majority you can&#8217;t be the Candidate. One of the core skills of leadership is building consensus getting that 1237 is the first trial of leadership. This also gives early state delegates a chance to make a better choice if their designated candidate drops or commits a new felony!</p>
<p> <a href="https://cdn.gop.com/docs/2012_RULES_Adopted.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://cdn.gop.com/docs/2012_RULES_Adopted.pdf</a></p>
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		By: JLM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Do YOU think that the votes pick the Republican nominee?

So charming. No, dear reader, it&#039;s the DELEGATES and the Republican Illuminati who direct their feeble efforts.

http://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/

BRC
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.<br />
Do YOU think that the votes pick the Republican nominee?</p>
<p>So charming. No, dear reader, it&#8217;s the DELEGATES and the Republican Illuminati who direct their feeble efforts.</p>
<p><a href="http://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://themusingsofthebigredcar.com/democracy-v-delegates/</a></p>
<p>BRC<br />
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